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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Whom do you think should be the primary challenger to Governor Snyder?

    Dave Agema   9 votes - 19 %
    Saul Anuzis   0 votes - 0 %
    Mike Bishop   7 votes - 15 %
    Todd Courser   2 votes - 4 %
    Mike Cox   4 votes - 8 %
    Clark Durant   1 vote - 2 %
    Jason Gillman   1 vote - 2 %
    Gary Glenn   15 votes - 32 %
    Pete Hoekstra   1 vote - 2 %
    Bill Schuette   6 votes - 13 %
    46 Total Votes
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    For the time being... (none / 0) (#1)
    by KG One on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 08:48:53 AM EST
    ...I'll keep my mouth shut on those last two paragraphs.

    The trolls from those "other" sites can speculate to their hearts content until the fall.

    In a way, it's kind of sad that it has come down to this.

    It's sad that a person who prides himself of being data-driven, flat-out ignores the data right in front of his face about the economic viability of the program that he vigorously promotes as being some kind of benefit to Michigan.

    That isn't an indication of someone who looks at facts. That is an indication of someone who leads by emotion.

    As I've mentioned before, I've got front-row seats for what happens when you let feel-good emotions override common sense decision making.

    It isn't going to be pretty when the end-result of that leadership style that finally happens.

    But it will be a cold day in Hell if nothing is done to warn others about what will happen to Michigan if this is left to go unchecked.

    As I watch that video (none / 0) (#2)
    by JGillman on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 09:36:42 AM EST
    I can see nothing that is so different from the emotional drivel that is used to drive policy for the moochers and looters.

    I really hate to use that term too.  However, when Snyder refers to all those poor people sitting in the emergency rooms as being "working adults", it is as if to score the sympathies, and then permission to steal from others to provide their health care.  

    The so-called 'progressives' use that emotional crap to forward THEIR agenda.  Its called socialism, and is theft.  

    Any health professionals who sign on to those arguments need to ask why they bothered to get into the field in the first place.  If they feel it is the responsibility for society to take care of those who are the working poor, then they can observe their own social construct by providing all of that care for free.  They do not need anyone else, nor a hand in my pocket to help them do that.

    This emotional tripe is indeed poison for the party, and any Republican who gets tangled up in it is a liar for violating their vow to defend the constitution, hypocritical for being in a party that has a platform opposing it, and a fool for allowing this governor to sway them with such emotional tripe.

    Nose Counts (none / 0) (#3)
    by TiredIronTim on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 09:55:04 AM EST
    Based on my intel coming from the senate floor- which proved to be accurate and incredibly useful last week on all occasions, the final count was 20 confirmed no votes.

    And in regards to Snyder, I successfully engaged one of his insiders last week so that I could confirm my suspicions- or reorganize them.

    Unfortunately, IMO, Nerdly will continue his course of death and destruction through the party-  not caring for a minute about the ramifications and/or damage done to the party that he had little use for prior to throwing his hat in the ring originally.

    He reportedly refuses to mix politics with doing his job, and will do whatever he thinks is the right thing to do- regardless of whether or not it blows a hole through the keel of the Snyder 2014 ship. Chances are very good that while in the shower, he's loudly belting out Frank Sinatra's "I did it my way", and is unabashedly willing to sing it all the way into early retirement.

    • Well, ... by Corinthian Scales, 06/23/2013 11:27:38 AM EST (5.00 / 1)
    • Two thoughts . . . by Kevin Rex Heine, 06/23/2013 01:39:20 PM EST (5.00 / 1)
    Yet another . . . (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Kevin Rex Heine on Tue Jun 25, 2013 at 10:57:43 AM EST
    . . . turd in the party punch bowl.

    Snyder's office on Monday announced "A Conversation With the Governor," a series of informal discussions with various audiences across the state. The first-term Republican is expected to begin the series Tuesday in Grand Rapids, where he will discuss the "Healthy Michigan" initiative with Spectrum Health System employees and other stakeholders.

    "The Healthy Michigan plan is vital to the health of our families and the economic success of our state. Unfortunately, Michigan now faces a sense of urgency to approve the plan in the light of the Senate's failure to vote before taking a summer vacation," Snyder said in a release announcing the talks.

    But Senate Majority Leader Randy Richardville declined to call an up-or-down vote in that chamber before lawmakers left town for summer break on Thursday, casting serious doubts about the fate of the expansion proposal. Richardville said caucus members need more time to consider the plan, noting that a House committee debated it for several weeks. He does not expect to convene another formal Senate session until late August.

    Snyder, in an uncharacteristically charged Thursday afternoon press conference, called on Senate Republicans to "take a vote, not a vacation" and urged residents to "bug the living daylights" out of them. Waiting until the fall to consider the Medicaid expansion proposal would be unacceptable, he said, because of federal timelines for rollout.

    This smacks of his campaign bus tour from last fall, which was for the specific purpose of defeating Proposals 12-5 and 12-6, though he was billing it as "one is yes, no on the rest" and couldn't even get 12-1 passed when the official canvass was done.

    I don't think there's enough Syrup of Ipecac in this state to neutralize the poison that the Nerd King has introduced into the party brand.

    86-3/4 days . . . and counting.

    A new online poll . . . (none / 0) (#9)
    by Kevin Rex Heine on Sat Jun 29, 2013 at 12:26:23 PM EST
    . . . is now available regarding a potential primary challenger to Governor Snyder.  This poll builds on an older one that's been circulating since June 16th, but is a bit more soundly structured from a statistical standpoint.  (http://poll.pollcode.com/9x5ry)  You may vote only once per year, so please choose wisely before pressing the "vote" button.  Just so we're clear, the sidebar poll has been in circulation on FaceBook since June 16th, and as of about a half hour ago has a total of 124 votes (after removing known duplications).  The tally, before the new poll started circulating, was:

    • (46 ÷ 124 ≈ 37.10%) - Dave Agema
    • (1 ÷ 124 ≈ 0.81%) - Saul Anuzis
    • (16 ÷ 124 ≈ 12.90%) - Mike Bishop
    • (6 ÷ 124 ≈ 4.84%) - Todd Courser
    • (3 ÷ 124 ≈ 2.42%) - Mike Cox
    • (9 ÷ 124 ≈ 7.26%) - Clark Durant
    • (3 ÷ 124 ≈ 2.42%) - Jason Gillman
    • (26 ÷ 124 ≈ 20.97%) - Gary Glenn
    • (4 ÷ 124 ≈ 3.23%) - Pete Hoekstra
    • (10 ÷ 124 ≈ 8.06%) - Bill Schuette

    It was, admittedly, a blunderbuss approach.  But the results are telling to a degree.

    Fascinating . . . (none / 0) (#34)
    by Kevin Rex Heine on Tue Jul 02, 2013 at 02:54:56 PM EST
    . . . this is.  As of last night, I was noticing that the only reliable things about this poll (http://poll.pollcode.com/9x5ry) were that:

    • the "inappropriate" line, though the largest plurality, was still a minority opinion (39% as of just before I'd called it a night)

    • an overwhelming majority (58% as of just before I'd called it a night) wanted a primary challenge, but there was nothing even remotely resembling consensus as to whom that challenger ought to be

    But my, how a mere 14 hours can change things.

    79-1/2 days, or thereabouts, and counting.

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