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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Blackmail and Blame-Shifting


    By Shell, Section News
    Posted on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 12:07:54 PM EST
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    (Promoted by Nick...)

    I shouldn't have been surprised at what I read in the Detroit News this afternoon.  But I was.

    House Speaker Andy Dillon said today he is considering the possibility of asking voters on Jan. 15 to increase the state's 6 percent sales tax to 7 percent, in exchange for repealing some of the service sales taxes approved by the legislature this week.

    This makes me believe the following:

    Granholm, Dillon and the dems (and their RINO buddies) are getting hammered over the tax hikes.  Hammered with a big, BIG mallet, in email, over the radio, on TV, the papers, etc.  This little wiggle by Dillion is a new attempt to shift blame to the taxpayers themselves!  We're being asked to vote for one of two evils so after the election Dillon/Granholm can say, "well, the taxpayers voted for it!"

    Dillon is under the delusion he's being magnanimous, and I don't think Michigan residents -- those of us left -- are going to drink this kool-aid no matter how much sugar he puts in it.

    Dillon said that his plan doesn't repeal the new tax on all services, because that would look as if the additional expense was being shifted away from business and onto individuals. Asked if the new tax would generate as much as this week's new taxes, Dillon said: "It's too soon to say, but probably."

    "I would guess that you'd see some other kind of carrot made available to the voters, whether it be some kind of homestead property tax break or something like that," he added.

    Anybody who pays taxes on their home knows the value of that carrot.  Zip. Zilch.  Nada.  Even with the protections of Headlee what the government gives, the government (specifically the democrats) will take away.  

    If Dillon thinks this is going to slow the recall drive, he's smoking rope.

    < Democrat tax-hike react: Non-partisan group says structural deficit not solved | The Recall of Representative Dean >


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    Voters might prefer that (none / 0) (#1)
    by NoviDemocrat on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 12:15:36 PM EST
    to the cuts that will follow the repeal of the services tax:

    # No funding increases for public schools
    # No funding increases for colleges and universities (watch for those tuition increases!)
    # Freeze state revenue sharing to local governments
    # Shutdown 3 prisons
    # Shutdown Maxey Training School
    # Slash Fire Protection grants
    # Reduce Military and Veterans Affairs funding
    # Close 25 Secretary of State branches
    # Reduce funding for State Police Secondary Road Patrols by 60%
    # Over 2000 state government employees join the ranks of the unemployed

    Cuts SHOULD be made (none / 0) (#2)
    by Shell on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 12:50:21 PM EST
    1.  Public schools in Michigan need increases despite losing students?  The days of crying "for the children!" are over, now that most know the money is or will be funnelled into teacher pensions and health care.  
    2.  Many are questioning the value of "higher" education, especially when UofM decides to build "luxury" dorms, complete with jacuzzi tubs.  Tenure is a preposterous idea that would never fly in the real world for good reason.
    3.  Freezing revenue sharing isn't that much of a threat, to be honest.  
    4.  As to shutting down Maxey and three prisons, there are other places where big cuts could be made, and SHOULD have been made long ago.
    5.  Fire protection grants?  Fire protection services are going to be taxed under the Dillon/Granholm plan.  But that's just a "luxury" to them.
    6.  Candace Miller and Terry L. Land have been doing a great job with SoS offices and policy, such as shaving over $20,000 simply by removing the letterhead name of the previous SoS (Austin) from stationery.  It was a small thing but it worked.  The SoS has also been doing a very good job of incorporating new technologies into renewing plates, etc., via the internet.  I took advantage of that earlier this week.  The last few times I've been into a brick & mortar office the lines have been reasonable and the wait time short.  Consolidating SoS offices wouldn't cripple the state, and it may justify putting a little more funding into expanding their internet services.
    7.  The state police issue is one that can be revisited.  I did find it interesting that their union jumped in at the last minute to prevent layoffs -- I might look into whether they were sitting on the cash or took out a loan.  It would be interesting to know.
    8.  As to the 2000 state employees...Lansing is so top-heavy with management its not funny.  These people, who are often unqualified and get hired based on their political/personal connections, are more interested in keeping their little kingdoms in place rather than doing an actual job.  The workers on the front line take the hits but many thousands MORE can be saved by elminating half of management.  They are dead weight.  
    9.  One thing that hasn't and won't be mentioned are the huge fines the state is paying to the feds because of violting mandates.  In the overall budget picture they may be a fraction, but they're a BIG symptom as to why so many state employees are furious with Grahnolm and Dillon.  They know of where cuts can and SHOULD be made by restructuring, but the last few attempts were a joke.  Nobody was removed, incompetent directors weren't replaced and its business as usual.  If there was honesty on BOTH sides of the asile (and there's very little, if any at all), this would have been dealt with long ago.

    Shell,
    The Conservatrarian

    You bet NoviDumbocrat (none / 0) (#3)
    by Ed Burley on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 12:52:42 PM EST
    That's exactly what we want.

    In fact, what I want is this:

    1) Privatize ALL foster care/adoption/juvenile justice; laying off hundreds of state employees.
    This includes increasing payments for the services provided that would help minimize the need for residential treatment.

    1. Close Maxey; Shawona; and Nokomis - laying off their employees (for a total of over 800 counting the previous bunch); and transferring the residential treatment cases to private agencies who cost between 50 and 75% less than the state facilities.

    2. Offer more school choice options to parents, including for those who choose to homeschool or send their children to private schools, the option to write off their costs on their taxes, as credits. This would lessen the need for public schools and lower education costs.

    3. Make all charitable deductions 100% tax credit on your tax forms. This would lessen the need for bureaucratic administration costs, which usually run 100-150% more than private agency administration costs.

    4. Let the non-offenders loose from the prisons, moving Michigan's prison population more in line with the surrounding states. It has been estimated that this alone would save the taxpayers around $500M per year.

    5. Legalize marijuana, prostitution, gambling, and ticket scalping; allowing Michigan citizens to pursue entrepreneurial ventures rather than Welfare payments. Cease arresting these non-violent offenders. Enforcement and incarceration would experience a huge savings and be able to put more time and effort into stopping violent crime.

    6. Either sell the state parks, or contract with private companies to run them - at a profit. The private companies could reimburse the state, and maintain the parks the way that KOA campgrounds are maintained.

    7. Privatize the services offered at the Secretary of State's offices. The state will set the fees, and the private company would reimburse the state. This would allow an entrepreneurial approach to these services (in the same way at the state parks) to find new and creative ways of servicing the public. While much has been done in streamlining these services, much more needs to be done that cannot be until the bureaucrats are removed from the equation.

    8. Eliminate redundant law enforcement agencies. E.g., in a small county seat in Tuscola Co. in the Thumb (Caro), there are city cops, county cops, and state cops. In the town where I grew up (Caseville), also in the Thumb, we had Township cops, Village cops, and regular patrols by County and State cops. This is TOO MUCH. We need to coordinate these efforts better and save money without jeopardizing protection.

    I'm sure that others could offer ideas, and I'm sure that these are not the only ideas that I would have. But since no one in Lansing cares about the Taxpayer, I'm sure that they won't listen to me. After all, the Mackinac Center offered $2B in cuts, and they were essentially ignored.

    I'm not objecting (none / 0) (#6)
    by Shell on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 01:24:21 PM EST
    Bishop's cuts are feasible and many of them necessary.

    I'm furious with this whole mess because of the philosophy behind Grahnolm/Dillon's drive for tax hikes.  They're insistence on maintaining a bloated budget when so many people are out of work, cutting their personal spending and just plain leaving the state is unconscionable.  Granholm demanded more sacrifices from an already hurting public, tried to pour perfume on a pig by calling them "investments," and any meaningful budget reforms no longer have the momentum they need to be enacted.

    Granolm and legislature -- both sides -- often forget about the Law of Unintended Consequences.  It takes precedence over ANY of their sniping and last-minute wheeling and dealing.  I'm sure they didn't mean to anger and infurate the public, but they have, and the Law may just work to get them recalled.  Deservedly.

    Shell,
    The Conservatrarian

    Do What GM Did... (none / 0) (#7)
    by DMOnline on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 02:05:59 PM EST
    The state should off-load teachers' pension and health care responsibilities to the MEA.  Let the teacher's union handle that mess and be fully liable for it.

    Oh, really? (none / 0) (#8)
    by KG One on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 02:33:28 PM EST
    Are you sure that it's not from that forged list that Dillon was attempting to pass off as coming from Bishop?

    • SB 237 and 511 by NoviDemocrat, 10/05/2007 02:45:44 PM EST (none / 0)
      • Uh... by Ed Burley, 10/05/2007 03:18:33 PM EST (none / 0)
    Reduce the fat (none / 0) (#13)
    by Reagan on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 03:47:01 PM EST
    Eliminate Michigan State Industries (MSI) This is the program where prison inmates make clothing, office furniture, cleaning supplies, etc. If people knew what a pair of corrections officer uniform pants cost from MSI compared to a pair from any uniform supply company, they would be outraged. I spoke to a warden and he said it's "somebody's baby" in Lansing.

    Here's a suggestion for a budget cut (none / 0) (#18)
    by mipt on Fri Oct 05, 2007 at 07:17:57 PM EST
    Please join the MDCH Diversity Workgroup for a Brown-Bag discussion on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Issues.

     The Brown-Bag will feature a presentation by Knoll Larkin, MPH, Health Services Coordinator of Affirmation Lesbian-Gay Community Center.  

    The presentation will provide information on providing culturally competent care to Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Individuals.

    Tuesday, October 23, 2007
    Capitol View 1st floor Conference Rooms B and C
    12:00 noon to 1:00 p.m.

    Ed (none / 0) (#20)
    by Reagan on Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 03:18:36 PM EST
    Since I've never been to most of the above mentioned areas, I can't elaborate on the racial makeup. However, if you go to the Michigan Dept of Corrections OTIS page and run a random last name under prisoners, you will see that I am only stating a fact and not my opinion. You are hard to figure out. You have some conservative values and your social values mirror those of a former president who "Didn't inhale" and "Did not have sexual relations with that woman." which would make you a liberal.               Now you say to let out non-violent offenders from prison? Suppose someone breaks into your house tonight and trashes it and steals everything that isn't bolted down? Every photo and item of sentimental value is destroyed. This person has no assets and no job for restitution. Do you still think he should be free?
    Although I don't agree with you on most topics, I will agree the cost involved with fighting the war on pot is a bit ridiculous. I don't smoke pot and haven't in 15 years. Some drugs are addictive to a point where people will kill their own mothers for $10 just to get their fix. I don't think pot has that effect and the property crimes and robberies that the "hard" drugs seem to foster aren't usually associated with pot. Just my take on your take.

    Ed (none / 0) (#22)
    by Reagan on Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 07:34:00 PM EST
    It benefits society by keeping the a$$hole locked up. It also benefits him because he may eventually go into the wrong house and meet his demise. There needs to be something to deter people from this sort of behavior. Jail or prison is a good enough reason for most.

    'zactly Mr. Burley (none / 0) (#24)
    by gnu2u on Mon Oct 08, 2007 at 12:32:03 AM EST
    Tuition increases are out of control at public universities.  Look at Hillsdale - no public (fed OR state) dollars, and they increased tuition 4.5% this year.  As a Big 10 grad, I am fascinated with Hillsdale's ability to fundraise and keep tuition in check while in the midst of building new buildings.  How can they keep their costs under control, yet the bigger schools can't?  What happened to the "economy of scale" that is supposed to make the state schools so much cheaper?  As much as they may be loathe to admit it, U of M, MSU, Central, Eastern, and Western could all learn a thing or two from the Dale.

    • Market forces by Ed Burley, 10/08/2007 11:39:51 AM EST (none / 0)
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