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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Taxing Us Into Prosperity


    By Rougman, Section News
    Posted on Thu Oct 01, 2009 at 11:56:12 AM EST
    Tags: Michigan budget (all tags)

    I am a bit discouraged this morning with the way that things have progressed down in Lansing of late. Faced with unprecedented pressure on Michigan taxpayers and a growing number of citizens just waiting to flee the state for better opportunities, there are still a great number of politicians in Lansing chomping at the bit to raise taxes further in order to create jobs.

    It seems as if every dollar taken from taxpayers these days is done for the purpose of creating jobs.

    I love this quote.
    "Police officers and firefighters protect our neighborhoods, our property and our lives," said House Speaker Andy Dillon (D-Redford Twp.). "We have to ensure that public safety remains a top priority. No business wants to locate in a state that allows criminals to take over its cities or doesn't have the manpower to respond to fires. To keep our residents safe and to grow our economy, we must protect the jobs of those who protect us."
    It used to be that putting out a house fire was, you know, to save the house. It used to be that tossing criminals behind bars was to protect citizens and punish the offenders. Now, apparently, these activities are primarily engaged in to promote job creation. (Oh, if we don't want criminals to take over the cities perhaps Detroit will refrain in the future from electing people like Monica Conyers and Kwame Kilpatrick to office.)

    I'm sort of partial to this quote too...

    "In order to create good-paying jobs, we must have a highly educated workforce," said House Majority Leader Kathy Angerer (D-Dundee). "Promise Scholarships open the doors to higher education for a whole generation of kids who have worked hard for the chance to compete for 21st century jobs. If we want a strong middle class that will attract emerging industries, then we must provide our young people with access to an affordable college education."
    It doesn't end there either. How many times have we heard that it is a "green economy" that will draw people to Michigan and help us compete for the jobs of tomorrow?
    The moment is now to use our lean, retooled American manufacturing sector to build the green cars, batteries, a smart electric grid, wind turbines and solar panels that will lead us to energy independence.

    It's a time of dramatic, historic, national transformation. And despite today's devastating news, Michigan is ready to lead.

    The same argument is made about Michigan's inclusion in a high speed rail system.
    "Public transportation has gone underutilized in Michigan for far too long. A strong, interconnected mass transportation system is absolutely vital to competing in the global marketplace and will trigger the economic development we need to turn things around here in Michigan."
    It goes on and on and on.

    There is virtually no line item in our state budget that cannot be used to argue that it helps to attract business and create jobs.

    The problem is, of course, that this argument is exactly bass ackwards. It is a strong business community and the jobs and the wealth that it helps create that provides communities with the resources to adequately protect their citizens from fire and crime, educate its children, provide for public transportation systems, and creates the framework for tomorrow's businesses. It is never the other way around.

    If Michigan bureaucrats want increasing wealth to return to this state it can only do so by creating conditions in which businesses can grow profitably, expand, and in turn hire people who will then pay reasonable taxes for police and fire protection, etc. It cannot be accomplished any other way, and it certainly cannot be accomplished by specifically promoting taxation and regulation that choke businesses of their ability to profit.

    Too many of our elected officials, even after the second government shut down in only three years, still have not figured this out.

    Now you know why I'm discouraged.

    cross posted at a discouraged Rougblog

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    Hear, hear! (none / 0) (#2)
    by maidintheus on Thu Oct 01, 2009 at 01:53:56 PM EST
    And be encouraged as well. There's a host of quotes by Dillon, who seems painfully aware that he can say anything he likes, regardless of self contradiction. Actually, that's my favorite thing about him.

    His freedom to do so just underlines that we are actually still free, and we can quote him back. That's the cherry on top. Oh, and Cherry..bwahahaha!

    See, a silver lining :)

    Also, I think our blog posts are important at this time of restricted communication. So, thank you kindly and keep the faith!

    Facts don't lie. (none / 0) (#3)
    by LookingforReagan on Thu Oct 01, 2009 at 03:21:16 PM EST
    According to the BLS Michigan's unemployment rate in 2000 under John Engler was 3.2%. One of the lowest in the nation.
    Taxes were low and there was money in the bank (rainy day fund). Michigan was one of the most prosperous states in the Union.
    Today, taxes are rampant. Unemployment the highest of the fifty (not 57) states and we are losing population at an alarming rate. Puerto Rico now does better in GDP then Michigan does. All of these things have happened since an Ultra Liberal Governor was elected. While I don't discount the contribution by certain RINO's in the Legislature there can be no denying that the days of blaming Engler for Granholms problems are over and have been for years.
    My complaint is why do we need 56,000 state employees to serve a population estimated at 8.3 million. In 1985 this state had a population of 11 million and the state government employed 32,000 people. That was when MDOT plowed the major highways and was responsible for road and bridge inspection and maintenance just as an example. The needs of the citizens were met. Why then do we need so many employees to conduct the business of millions of fewer residents? Can't we find more areas of fat to cut? How about the Surgeon Generals Office? Do we really need to spend millions of dollars funding a government office that really doesn't serve a purpose? We don't need somebody to tell us we smoke to much, drink to much, eat to much and don't exercise. That we are fat and out of shape. First of all we know that. And secondly it is not Governments business. How about cutting the office and staff of the first spouse. What will we save there? The idea of raising taxes has resulted in the following.
    When Granholm decided to raise the cigarette and beer taxes in order to help close the bugit gap the amount of revenue fell. The reason was simple. Tax behavior and you get less of it. And of course our competitor states of Ohio and Indiana make sure their taxes for both tobacco and beer are lower then Michigan. The reult is that Michigan loses revenue on 12 million cartons of cigarettes that are purchased in other states each year. The amount for beer is conservatively estimated at 14 million cases. That results in the loss of over 200 million in tax revenue to this state. Money that ends up in Indiana or Ohio. I would rather cut taxes on those commodities and recoup some of the revenue, say 70% then lose all of it. But for some strange reason doing what makes sense hasn't been real popular in Lansing for the last seven years. I have spoken to Sen. Cassis's office as well as the Governor and State Rep Kate Seagal. So far I am still waiting for the answers to the question of why not lower taxes and cut state staffing to a reasonable level. It worked for JFK, Reagan and Engler. So what is the problem? It works and will again. There has to be another reason for the stonewalling on adopting a blueprint for Michigan that has worked in the past. What is the reason? What is the real agenda? Who benefits the most?
    As far as public safety. It is simple. We need to adopt an amendment to the State Constitution that prohibits the cutting of police, fire and EMS services as way to blackmail the citizens into agreeing to higher taxes. The amendment would force the state, county and other local governments to make cuts in other areas before public safety can be cut in times of economic downturns. We the people have the right to demand this and I am sure we can get it done.

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