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    MI Democrats At Center Of Abortion Controversy In The Healthcare Bill

    By Theblogprof, Section News
    Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 08:55:14 AM EST
    Tags: Obama, abortion, Michigan, Stabenow (all tags)

    Gee - I thought Obama said that nationalizing healthcare wouldn't actually pay for any abortions. Or illegal immigrants. Or ration care. Uh - did dear leader - egads! - lie? Was Joe Wilson right? Actually, yes; yes he was! Turns out, nationalized healthcare would pay for illegals either directly from upcoming amendments offered by the most liberal Democrats, or indirectly by having no provision to confirm citizenship (not a bug, but rather a feature of HR 3200). Comparative effectiveness research only takes 2 things into account - treatment cost and age. How is that not a death panel? And then there is abortion. Here's what Obama had to say about it a few short weeks ago, and then there's Bart Stupak (D-MI-1st district) who called Obama a liar without using that word:

    Got that? HR 3200 has a little-known amendment that mandates that at least one of the plans in the "exchange" cover abortion. Again, not a bug - a feature. Obama lied through his teeth. In any case, Stupak (more on him later) isn't the only Michigan pol involved heavily in the abortion healthcare controversy. Just recently, Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) scuttled a Senate amendment that would have forbidden abortion coverage by taxpayer dollars. From The Detroit Free Press: Abortion entrenched in health care debate.

    More below the fold...

    ...in the Senate Finance Committee, Democratic senators, including Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, held off an amendment by Utah Republican Orrin Hatch that would have prohibited public subsidies for plans offering abortion services, instead allowing women to buy supplemental coverage. Opponents said it essentially takes away a right that women have: to pay for coverage as part of their overall plans.

    "As a woman, I find it offensive," said Stabenow, who helped defeat the measure, 13-10.

    As usual, evil is good and good is evil. See, in liberal la-la land, filleting a conscious baby in the womb as it recoils from pain is fine but withholding taxpayer dollars from paying for such butchery is offensive. Makes sense in the liberal worldview. Somehow. The complicated situation, however, is Stupak's:

    In the House, U.S. Rep. Bart Stupak, a Menominee Democrat and abortion rights opponent, has told Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., that he and 40 other moderate members of the party could move to block the reform bill if they don't get a chance to vote on an amendment that would make certain federal funds aren't used to pay for abortions
    This is softer than many may read. They could block, but that doesn't mean they will block, the legislation. And the exception is that they get to vote on the amendment, not that it passes. As I have mentioned many times before, this is entirely consistent with what is coming out of the Stupak camp off-camera through the dinosaur print media:
    It's not make-or-break to his support of the bill ultimately, [Stupak] said. But he wants it considered.
    Here's another snippet:
    Stupak ... "doesn't oppose a public option," his spokeswoman, Michelle Begnoche , said. "No one issue will dictate his final vote. He will look at the bill in its totality when he makes his decision."
    About says it all regarding Stupak. You have to wonder about the game within the game here. 41 purported pro-life Democrats exist that could block the legislation, and all of them are needed. What do you think the odds are that 3 or 4 of the safest ones will peal off from that crowd allowing the other 37 to save face, vote against it to look good to their constituents, but still let the horrible legislation pass anyway. It's typical modus operindi for Democrats. Lie, cheat, steal. I find that offensive.
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    safety first(but whose?) (none / 0) (#1)
    by sailingconservatively on Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 10:13:30 AM EST
    The sacred safety of a occupied seat in the House or Senate has and always will, trump the safety of the unborn child, marginalized or indigent of our society.

    Many dollars have already been spent taking the temperature of "up for grabs" districts around the nation to determine the viability of a candidate should (and how) they vote on this tempestuous issue.

    Our efforts here in Michigan need to focus squarely on the removal of sen. Stabenow, sen. Dingell, sen. Levin, congressman Stupak, the governorship as it currently stands and those that sit on benches with life and liberty in their hands.  

    The proliferation of information is astounding and its accuracy is testimony to the efforts of those whose passion for Truth is of paramount concern.  

    We as a population now know fully the situation and must focus all efforts to make certain that this state and nation does not continue moving in the same direction.

    Holocaust? (none / 0) (#3)
    by LookingforReagan on Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 04:50:16 PM EST
    I believe it was Congressman Grayson (D-Fl) that proclaimed that the lack of Health Care for some Americans constituted a Holocaust. I guess he needs to study history a bit better. Nobody in this country lacks coverage of one sort or another. No one can be denyed medical service as per a 1968 Federal law. If Congressman Grayson wants to discuss the American Holocaust lets talk about the 2,000,000 lives that were ended by abortion. Two million lives ended and sacrificed on the alter of Progressivism and Feminism. When we are talking those kinds of numbers that is what in an historical context is referred to as a Holocaust.

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