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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Mike Nofs Needs Your Help

    By DMOnline, Section News
    Posted on Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 08:46:19 AM EST
    Tags: Mike Nofs (all tags)

    UPDATE (10/26/09): It should be noted that Mr. Nofs has received the endorsement of Right to Life, several business organizations and Citizens for Traditional Values. He has received the endorsement of the Michigan Education Association. For some, that may automatically disqualify him. But from my point of view, improving the education of our children must always be a high priority. I've checked with several sources whom I trust within the Michigan's conservative movement and they all concur that Mr. Nofs is a good man and will be a great state senator. Is he perfect? No candidate is. But he's very good on most issues and is certainly far better than the alternative. *********

    With just over a week from the special election in the Battle Creek area for a state Senate seat, there is geniune hope that the Republicans may actually win back this seat vacated by a Democrat.

    I'm not affiliated with Republican nominee Mike Nofs campaign.  Not involved at all and don't live in his district, actually.  But given the state of our state, I cannot think of anything more important at this moment than ensuring Mr. Nofs wins the November 3rd election.

    But he needs our help and support to pull off that victory.  This is a "purple" district and it is expected the Democrat machine will be pouring in lots of money and resources in this last week of the campaign to elect their nominee.

    The Republican-controlled state Senate is the only barrier to Governor Granholm and her fellow Democrats running the state House from implementing even more of their liberal policies that have already so damaged our state.  We need to increase our strength in the state Senate by electing Mike Nofs.

    If you're interesting in helping Mr. Nofs campaign in this final and critical week before election day, please visit his website by clicking here.


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    Thanks for the info. (none / 0) (#1)
    by maidintheus on Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 08:48:37 AM EST
    Much appreciated.

    Mike Nofs - Liberal (none / 0) (#2)
    by conservmatt on Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 07:02:25 PM EST
    What the State needs is fewer RINOs like Mike Nofs.  The Michigan Republican party is fully in the tank for the tax-hiking Nofs.  Its too bad that Mike Cox doesn't have better advisors to tell him not to support liberal Democrats.  Leland Preble is just as bad.  Its time to drum tax hikers and anyone who's been endorsed by the SEIU and the MEA like Nofs has.  Hey Mike, you going to return their money?  What a joke Mike Nofs is.

    • How could Cox by maidintheus, 10/23/2009 09:09:50 PM EST (none / 0)
    Check out Nofs Voting Record in the House (none / 0) (#3)
    by conservmatt on Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 07:03:59 PM EST
    here's his record...enjoy all the taxes.

    Make Lansing Listen
    Good Luck!

    • Interesting. by maidintheus, 10/23/2009 09:08:41 PM EST (none / 0)
    Michigan's Most Wanted (none / 0) (#4)
    by conservmatt on Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 07:06:33 PM EST
    Nofs is on the List of Michigan's Most Wanted Liberal Democrats.  Check it out here:

    Michigan's Most Wanted

    • Even more interesting. by maidintheus, 10/23/2009 09:11:08 PM EST (none / 0)
      • Links by conservmatt, 10/24/2009 01:46:40 AM EST (none / 0)
    Newt has ticked me off for (none / 0) (#9)
    by maidintheus on Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 09:14:57 PM EST
    quite a while.

    Perhaps Nick will say something to (none / 0) (#10)
    by maidintheus on Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 09:19:52 PM EST
    Cox. I'm going to say something to Nick and Cox on their Twitter. I hope everyone else does too.

    • Nofs by conservmatt, 10/23/2009 09:26:00 PM EST (none / 0)
    Wendy Day (none / 0) (#15)
    by conservmatt on Sat Oct 24, 2009 at 01:49:39 AM EST
    Wendy is my bud and co-founder of New Patriot Revolution.  Check it out.

    Marxist Nofs (none / 0) (#16)
    by conservmatt on Sun Oct 25, 2009 at 09:35:40 PM EST
    Not getting any argument from anyone....hmmmm.

    What's the alternative? (none / 0) (#19)
    by maidintheus on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 04:58:28 AM EST
    What to do?


    Perfect the Enemy of the Good (none / 0) (#20)
    by DMOnline on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 10:04:19 AM EST
    Lots of accusations and scurrilous charges coming from one person here, ConservMatt.  And while he is right about the endorsement Nofs received from the MEA, I'm not entirely certain that disqualifies Mr. Nofs from being an "acceptable" Republican candidate.

    But it should be noted that Mr. Nofs also received the endorsement of Right to Life, several business organizations and Citizens for Traditional Values.

    Is he my idea of the perfect conservative?  No.  But very few mortals meet that level of perfection.

    One has to also consider the alternative.  Letting Nofs' leftist Democrat opponent win the seat is simply unacceptable.

    As such, I stand by my posting and hope you'll help the GOP pick up this very important state Senate seat.


    Nope, not perfection (none / 0) (#24)
    by DMOnline on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 02:29:55 PM EST
    So let's give Granholm and the Leftists running Lansing another seat in the senate?  Hmmm.

    Yep, let's defeat a guy with whom we likely agree on policy 70-80% of the time because he's not our idea of political perfection.  Then we can b*tch really loudly after November 3 about the new lefty Dem from Battle Creek we managed to get elected as a result.

    Yep, that makes PERFECT sense.


    • I hear ya but by maidintheus, 10/26/2009 03:23:30 PM EST (none / 0)
    This is a grrreat debate. (none / 0) (#26)
    by maidintheus on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 03:29:57 PM EST
    And if it continues I want to remind us to be polite and not accuse each other of the grievous but unsubstantiated.

    Clearly, we're all on the same side. Let's remain productive.

    Questions are good. We are not in duck step.  

    I totally get it, but... (none / 0) (#28)
    by DMOnline on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 05:16:08 PM EST
    I hope you believe me when I tell you you're preaching to the choir concerning conservative purity.

    And yes, I'm a hypocrite because I support Doug Hoffman big time in the New York congressional special election.  He's the conservative independent running against a WAY, WAY, WAY! liberal Republican and an even more liberal Democrat.  He seems to be picking up steam but could just as easily end up being the spoiler giving the election to the Democrat.

    But that is a little bit different.  The citizens of Battle Creek do not have a viable 3rd party conservative candidate on the ballot.

    So what does one do as a loyal conservative who puts their conservatism ahead of party loyalty?  Sit home and not vote?  Pull the lever for the Democrat?

    Mr. Nofs is said to be pro-life - pro-life enough to win Right to Life's endorsement.  I think it safe to say his opponent is pro-abortion.

    Are you saying it's better to have a pro-abortion state Senator than elect a pro-lifer you agree with on 70-80% of the issues?

    Vern Ehlers is my US Congressman.  I'm way to the right of Vern and most of you are probably too.  Should I have not voted for the man in every election in which he's been our candidate?

    I had very serious problems with John McCain as our prez nominee last year.  Should I have not voted for him last November?

    I know.  For some this is black and white.  I'm a black and white kind of guy.  But this one has me flummoxed.  Good thing I don't live in Nofs' district.


    I've had enough (none / 0) (#30)
    by goppartyreptile on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 09:31:01 PM EST
    A few points:

    1) Anyone that knows anything would've known the instant that Walberg's polls started going south that Schauer had a good chance to win, and that there would be a special election,  and that if you wanted a "true conservative" to be our nominee next week, you SHOULD HAVE FOUND ONE AND BUILT AN ORGANIZATION AND RAN AND WON THE PRIMARY.

    State Party or the Republican"RINOs" didn't pick Nofs, he won an election.  And he had won some other difficult elections in that area, and is a good campaigner and so on ... and he ran a race and won.

    So you have no one to blame but yourselves.

    2) When Nofs wins next week, we will have 22 seats in the Senate. We will have 17 open seats next year, because of term limits.  We've got 4 seats that are extremely vulnerable... so worst/best case scenario, Nofs wins, we keep 2 of those seats, and we barely keep majority.  Or we pick up another seat from somewhere else.  And we keep majority in the Senate, which even with the mistakes they've made,  is the only thing that is keeping us from having a completely Democrat dominated government.

    And if you think things are bad now, just wait if that happens.  

    Oh yeah, and redistricting happens next year, so they'll be able lock in their majority for quite some time.

    Now, if you'd rather be pure as driven snow and not support a "RINO" that you did nothing to stop, you go right ahead and do that.  But if you don't want to see the absolute last thread of sanity this state has, as slender as it is, in the senate, then we need this seat.

    Interesting discussion (none / 0) (#32)
    by Rougman on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 11:42:53 PM EST
    When it comes right down to it I suppose I would need to be called a purist.  This was not always the case as evidenced by my habit of voting for the (R) for many years based on some naive assumptions.

    I was raised by conservative parents who held it in their hearts that Republicans were more careful with money.  I was one of those dummy conservatives in college that didn't have the sense to shut up about my beliefs, so conservatism and being a Republican run deep with me.

    Things changes a few years ago when it was decided by the major political parties that I had no choice but to support a big wasteful government regardless of which major party I supported.  My opinions were discounted by the big Rs such as Lott, Stevens, Delay, and Bush.

    Now I have to contemplate as a voter several things that I used to take for granted.

    First, do I want to be associated with big government Republicans when their current makeup is, generally speaking, only slightly less progressive than their Democrat counterparts, or should I vote for and speak out in support of what I believe?  Secondly, I wonder if there isn't some value to a conservative uprising that lets establishment Republicans know that there is an electoral consequence for talking conservative in an election and then legislating/governing like the second political coming of William Delano Milliken.  

    I know we've had these debates before and I'm not certain that much ever gets settled for me. I will agree with what gopartyreptile said, if the conservative wing of the party wants to affect elections it should send someone forward.  The problem is, of course, that the GOP establishment has soured so many conservatives on the party that there is some deep seeded resentment and distrust.  In just the past few years look at what happened to Arlen Specter.  We had a good conservative running against the old fossil but the GOP establishment supported the liberal Specter. Another troubling development was the savaging that Sarah Palin received by established Republicans during the election, and even by John McCain's own campaign staff after the elections.  While I often hear conservatives attacked for taking sides in the purity wars, I seldom hear many apologies from the moderates for doing the same thing. The NY 23 race just helps cement this distrust for me...what Republican in their right mind would support Dede Scozzafava?  (Oh yea, Newt and the establishment NY GOP.)

    The Republican Party and many of its individual candidates, and excuse me if I'm overstating things a bit here, stand for a lot less than they used to.  Is there a better way to nudge the party back on its proper course than through principled voting and targeted campaign contributions?  

    I am simply to the point that I can no longer tolerate watching our various governments bloat themselves on the taxes of citizens, expand their powers at every turn, and drive this country toward the brink of economic and cultural collapse.  

    Sooner or later, I feel, we have to make a stand.  

    Sorry for being so long winded.  What was this thread about again?

    Stupid (none / 0) (#39)
    by jackietreehorn on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    This thread is case and point why nobody reads Right Michigan anymore.  Let's throw away a candidate because some extreme group calls him "Most Wanted".  We'll see after Tuesday who the voters in the 19th deem their "Most Wanted" and I'm willing to bet it's Mike Nofs.  

    Just plain idiotic.  

    Who Knew? (none / 0) (#43)
    by DMOnline on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 02:28:26 PM EST
    Who knew an innocent little plea to help the Republican candidate in a state Senate race would result in such an extended conversation?

    I do have a question for each of you who've taken the time to post a comment and for all the others who've read them but not contributed to the conversation:

    How many of you have run for office?  How many of you are currently holding an elected position in local, state, or federal government?

    I'm an elected official.  

    It's on the local level so I don't swing significant power - but that's not the point.

    The point is I chose 4 years ago to finally put my money where my mouth is and put my name on a ballot and let the people decide.

    I was tired of just bitching about how stupid all the politicians were and decided to actually try and make a difference.

    How many of you are willing to leave the comfort of this blog and put your neck on the line for what you believe in?

    It's really easy to type away anonymously "contributing" to this dialogue.  It's much harder to actually put your reputation on the line to make your community, your state, your nation a better place to live and raise your families.

    So I challenge you...

    I challenge you to get off your duff, get involved, put your name on a ballot, get your voters to the polls, and make a real difference.

    Put up or shut up.

    Okay, that was a bit harsh but you get the point.

    If you're the "real deal," then run for office.  We need you.


    • DM by goppartyreptile, 10/28/2009 01:01:09 PM EST (none / 0)
    Corinth... (none / 0) (#46)
    by DMOnline on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 03:00:07 PM EST
    We'll see your name on which ballot and in what race?

    Put your money where your mouth is, buddy.

    C'mon!  I dare you.

    AND I want to vote FOR you.  Make that a reality, please.


    Nofs (none / 0) (#59)
    by tomjeff on Wed Oct 28, 2009 at 01:14:38 PM EST
    I live in this district and let me tell you, Mike Nofs is a far better choice than the Democrat Marty Griffin. There was plenty of time for a more conservative Republican to run, where was he/she.  I'm not willing to let this seat go to the Dems just because Nofs and I do not agree 100% on conservative issues.

    I think this is more then just about Nofs. (none / 0) (#61)
    by maidintheus on Wed Oct 28, 2009 at 02:10:32 PM EST
    Please, vote him in and be done. But: It appears that there is much concern. Valid and understandable concern. This is a response and a symptom.

    One can take cough medicine, but that's treating the symptom. We beg to have the actual problem be addressed.

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