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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Madison predicted current political affairs

    By JGillman, Section News
    Posted on Tue May 04, 2010 at 02:03:22 PM EST
    Tags: Republican, RINO, Federalist, Discussion, LOL (all tags)

    Lets consider that when we elect our representation, we expect both adherence to rule of law, and to conservative principles that most who come here understand.  Countless arguments exist about big tents, relaxing standards, or tolerance to "new ideas" in the Republican party in Michigan and elsewhere.  

    Our founders were quite prescient however as seen by the words of Madison on the conformity to "Republican" Principles going forward. From The federalist papers No. 39.

    "The first question that offers itself is, whether the general form and aspect of the government be strictly republican. It is evident that no other form would be reconcilable with the genius of the people of America; with the fundamental principles of the Revolution; or with that honorable determination which animates every votary of freedom, to rest all our political experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government. If the plan of the convention, therefore, be found to depart from the republican character, its advocates must abandon it as no longer defensible."

    Madison felt that Republican form of government served the people best, and to proceed with the convention sans IT being the premise of the new government, would be folly.  The premise of the new government was as a Republic.  The plan was to follow a set of limitations on government established by the constitution.  It was NOT a "democracy."

    39 is also a discussion of how we would have a mix of "national" and Federal" types of powers.  But for this little peek into the past, lets pick off a small section..

    Believe it or not.. In part of no. 39, Madison talks about RINOs:

    "If we resort for a criterion to the different principles on which different forms of government are established, we may define a republic to be, or at least may bestow that name on, a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure, for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is ESSENTIAL to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion, or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans, and claim for their government the honorable title of republic. It is SUFFICIENT for such a government that the persons administering it be appointed, either directly or indirectly, by the people; and that they hold their appointments by either of the tenures just specified; otherwise every government in the United States, as well as every other popular government that has been or can be well organized or well executed, would be degraded from the republican character."

    Imagine that..  I believe It was predicted that there would be those who would try to lay claim to the honorable title of "Republican."  That legitimate form of governing which was "Founder Approved!"  

    Madison predicted RINO's!!

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    Okay, now that we've identified the problem... (none / 0) (#1)
    by KG One on Wed May 05, 2010 at 12:12:03 PM EST
    ...how do we get rid of them?

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