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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Heated Rhetoric?

    By JGillman, Section News
    Posted on Sun Jan 09, 2011 at 11:15:14 AM EST
    Tags: blame, Congresswoman, Conservatives, Daily Kos, democrats, free Speech, Giffords, liberals, Murder, politics, propaganda, Racism, Sarah Palin (all tags)

    ~ A reminder to keep on talking. We shall not be silenced.  - repost from MTTM ~

    A very bad thing happened yesterday.  A deranged man attacked a public figure, for a reason that only he might know.  In the process, he also attacked and killed others who may, or may not have been intended targets.  Apparently the initial target was a Democrat, and he used a gun.

    As was expected, there is posturing in the editorial theater about where the responsibility lays for yesterdays horrific act.  As was also expected, the initial barrage was aimed at conservative groups or individuals for 'fanning the flames' with talk radio, tea parties etc.  And there is no surprise that Sarah Palin, whom the left fears with the darkest and seemingly largest parts of their souls, would become a target yet again.

    While there are countless blogs, and news articles that link Palin's electoral target map to this one man's insanity,  I will present the work of merely ONE writer, as it encompasses the complete propaganda package in it's entirety.

    More below.

    In The Demographics of political violence, I immediately found a little disappointment with the title.  It had nothing about demographics, no charts indicating whom is more likely to perpetrate such heinous violence, or nothing that indicated a count at all.  Nothing of a statistical nature seemed obvious, but for this small section:
    "Some demographics of political violence can be measured.

    Most such acts are carried out by men between the ages of 16 and 30.  Their susceptibility to violently act out increases during periods of economic decline.

    According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the number of hate groups has increased by 54 percent since 2000.

    The center attributes much of the increase to the election of an  African-American president and fears about Latino immigration - an issue  of particular concern in Arizona.

    While the overall rate of hate crimes has stayed fairly steady,  crimes against gays and Hispanics have reached record high numbers,  according to the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights."

    The link that is preceded by the 16-30 age mention, discusses economically challenged dumb youth,  crowded dumb youth, and the seemingly politically disenfranchised crowded dumb youth.  Other expert testimony, is provided by the Southern Poverty group, which as a matter of course seeks to paint conservatives and constitutionalists with a racist brush.  The final reference made, is to a 'human rights' organization which cannot understand why we don't all get along.  Especially since we have enacted such innovative 'hate crime' legislation.

    Sadly, there is nothing learned here, except that there will always be those who try to make such tragedy become their clarion call for the silencing of conservative voices and opinion.

    I left a reply.

    I doubt it will be approved, as my own dissent is likely measured as unproductive action in their realm of self serving demagoguery.  I did however save a copy to post here. I said:

    The sheriff is off his nut.

    And the shooter is probably crazy.

    But relating it to Palin or the tea parties, or talk radio is absurd.  Look at the characteristics of this atheist, kicked out of the military,  individual who thinks America is a terrorist state, who likes flag burning, and considers the police unconstitutional.

    Anyone who thinks this guy was motivated by conservatives needs a class in remedial reasoning.  Mislabeling of the situation does not help anyone.

    In fact, lets talk about pulling stories down.
    A daily KOS blogger, only two days prior, posted this:    - begin copied text -

    My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!

    by BoyBlue
    Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST

    I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords' district. I worked like a dog for her elections when she was in the Arizona House, surrounded by rightwing nutcases. When Arizona re-districted in 2002, a seat opened up and she was right smack in the middle of it. So was I because I live in Oro Valley, Arizona, which is at the heart of that - then - new CD. I was one of several people to talk her into running and pledging complete loyalty and pledging to raise as much money as possible for her.

    She ended up running for the first time against a fellow AZ House member, Randy Graf who was a rightwing whacko who advocated guns in bars and was the "Russell Pearce before Russell Pearce" vis-a-vis border issues. With a LOT of hard work and plenty of money, Gabby won. Easier than thought, too. I never like to throw money in people's faces, but i have given Gabrielle Giffords THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars in both good times and bad times for me financially.

    * BoyBlue's diary :: ::

    Fast forward to this election season. A weirdo asshole named Jesse Kelly who advocated ELIMINATING Social Security and was a tea bagger favorite got the GOP nom to run against her. I am gay and had been married and my spouse left me January 15, 2010. I shot myself in the mouth in a serious suicide attempt, because of that. Barely surviving, I spent two months in the hospital and still have some paralysis. I did receive a severance from my employer, as i had been laid off in December, 2009. That may have been part of the reason my spouse left me.

    Anyway, after months of physical and mental rehab, I got back into the political scene and started working for Gabby once again. I raised over $100,000 for her and maxed her out myself out of my severance, even though i still don't have work and could not qualify for state aid because of my severance.

    She wins her re-election and told me she was still a supporter of Speaker Pelosi at her victory party. We talked about how Nancy Pelosi was a successful woman and accomplished oh so much in just four years as Speaker.

    Today, just a little while ago, I saw on Andrea Mitchell Reports (out of the one eye in can still see out of) that Giffords voted AGAINST Nancy Pelosi as our Minority Leader. Rhetorical question:  I fought back from my condition and jumped in with both feet to help Gabrielle Giffords for THIS shit???

    Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now. I won't lift a finger, make one phone call, nor will i EVER vote for her in the future. And why did she do this? Giffords never told me she was conservative Democrat. And her voting record is okay. Damn.

    - end copied text -

    Somehow, because it does not fit into the storyline that many liberals would like to promote, this does not get talked about when mentioning heated rhetoric.

    Where do you suppose an investigator would look first if doing his job properly?  The work of THIS writer, or in Alaska?

    A screen shot of the blue boys'  article can be found over at the blog profs site.

    Ultimately, with these things, it does no one any good to apply labels at all.   This man did assault and murder, and shall have to pay for his horrific acts in some way, either here or in the hereafter.  Pretending to offer insight to his motivations without intimate knowledge of his internal workings is indeed absurd.

    Absurd, but not surprising from those who have an agenda to silence the spirit of this country.

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    The salivating (none / 0) (#1)
    by grannynanny on Sun Jan 09, 2011 at 11:42:39 AM EST
    from the left and MSM is just disgusting.  And.... if this was a conservative gunned down do you think the 24/7 hyperbole would be playing out as it has??? Absolutely not, the MSM would pull out all the stops to find every written word and video link of that conservative and place blame squarely on him.  He had it coming.  And then end of story and find some other bleeding heart liberal to create more fantasy about.

    Creating the news instead of reporting it.  Shameful!!!

    I'm disappointed, but not surprised in the least.. (none / 0) (#2)
    by KG One on Sun Jan 09, 2011 at 12:23:01 PM EST
    ...at what passes for media in America today.

    Most of the talking heads were focusing on the basics any good reporting (i.e. what happened, who was DIRECTLY involved (more on this later), where it happened, when it happened and to a degree why it happened.

    Then they ran out of material.

    So what do they do?

    Go dredging for something, anything, to fill up air time and keep viewers.

    That's when their standards flew right our the window.

    Just about every network I was surfing through last night focused like a laser on the SarahPAC and the TEA Party.

    I'm sorry, but I remember something a long, long time ago about journalists exercising a quaint concept called "objectivism".

    The Daily Kos article was an great example. I first caught it through Michelle Malkin's site yesterday.

    Interestingly enough, when I went to see it first hand, this is what I found.

    Even the Daily Kos people were so embarrassed that they may be associated with the shooter, they eliminated it from their site.

    So was the original poster, afterwards.

    When you have to pull a cached version of an article, that tell you something is wrong right there.

    Now before people go off and start jumping to conclusions, I'm not pointing any fingers at what were the motivations behind yesterday's shooting.

    The punk who did it was caught and is apparently not talking, so anything from this point is merely speculation.

    But this would be an excellent opportunity for the media to take a long hard look at itself in the mirror, and decide whether or not its "reporting" practices should be reexamined as to their actual objectiveness.

    • Exactly. by JGillman, 01/09/2011 01:03:33 PM EST (none / 0)
    Are You Kidding??? (none / 0) (#4)
    by grannynanny on Sun Jan 09, 2011 at 01:49:55 PM EST
    The MSM has taken their left wing agenda and are running like mad to inject every left wing issue into every story.  That they are all blaming Sarah Palin, Rush, Beck and others is proof positive that their Marxist ideology is first and foremost in all aspects of their reporting.

    One only has to look at the left wing blogs and then watch the MSM coverage - they mirror one another.  

    As said before we need to be bold, loud and not afraid to confront.  This shooting was the result of a very sick individual - not politics.  And yes we are being blamed but we have to speak up and point out the truth as it comes out and to confront the likes of those in the media who are creating a different story.

    When the MSM shouts their crap we have to shout louder!!!

    Sheriff Dipshit (none / 0) (#5)
    by grannynanny on Sun Jan 09, 2011 at 04:58:41 PM EST
    Just watched an interview on Fox with the Pima County Sheriff.  He is specifically calling out conservative talk radio and media for the cause of this!  

    What a complete ass wipe!  Talk about fanning the flames.  Can't wait to see his reaction when Rev Fred Phelps shows up for the little girl's funeral.  After all Rev. Fred and his hateful church are faithful Democrats.  Let's see him defend those whack jobs.

    When it comes to rhetoric... (none / 0) (#6)
    by Corinthian Scales on Sun Jan 09, 2011 at 07:11:18 PM EST
    The entire world of the Left...  can kiss my Scottish blooded, American born, conservative opinionated ass!

    That film depicted the assassination of Dubya, a sitting president during his second term in Office.  Why?  Seriously, what was their point?

    'Nuff said.

    • I recall.. by JGillman, 01/09/2011 09:14:26 PM EST (none / 0)
    Curiouser and curiouser. (none / 0) (#8)
    by KG One on Mon Jan 10, 2011 at 10:47:17 AM EST
    Sheriff Dipshit, explained? (none / 0) (#9)
    by Corinthian Scales on Mon Jan 10, 2011 at 06:11:32 PM EST
    Perhaps this Tuscon blog has some merit that the Lefty media isn't going to address.

    Jared Loughner, pronounced by the Sheriff as Lock-ner, saying it was the Polish pronunciation. Of course he meant Scott or Irish but that isn't the point. The point is he and his office have had previous contact with the alleged assailant in the past and that is how he knows how to pronounce the name.

    Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff's Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation...

    Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more.

    This was not an act of politics. This was an act of a mentally disturbed young man hell bent on getting his 15 minutes of infamy. The Pima County Sheriff's Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.

    It really makes an old expression my folks used come to mind... When you raise your hand to point your finger at someone, remember, you always have three pointing back at you.

    CS (none / 0) (#10)
    by grannynanny on Mon Jan 10, 2011 at 06:16:24 PM EST
    You beat me to the news.  Saw this and came here to report it but you were on the ball.  Interesting.  Wonder if the MSM will report this and if they do how is Sheriff Dipshit going to respond???

    Perhaps this could have been prevented but instead the sheriff is placing politics above and beyond protecting the residents of Tuscon.  

    Sad day for all of us when those put in place to protect us would rather promote an agenda.

    Rather than messing with the 2nd Amendment (none / 0) (#13)
    by maidintheus on Mon Jan 10, 2011 at 10:41:10 PM EST
    Rather than attempting to cast aspersions, there should be suggestions (starting with that sheriff) on solutions.

    When someone is so disruptive that they're kicked out of school until they provide a mental health clearance...there's your clue. They should immediately be put on a watch list with the local and state police, FBI, DHS, and not allowed to purchase a gun. That leaves the rest of us, who are not acting out, free to have guns, take our meds, go to school, protect ourselves and pursue happiness.

    To Be PC (none / 0) (#14)
    by grannynanny on Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 02:51:43 PM EST
    Will my company have to change their logo to comply with the libs pending legislation to outlaw symbols that might promote violence?


    Think About It??? (none / 0) (#17)
    by grannynanny on Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 04:19:35 PM EST
    About 90% of surveyors use some form of cross hairs in their logos - would they be considered promoting violence?  Would those logos have to be eliminated?

    Cross hairs are used in level bubbles on surveying rods and instruments - would those work place tools have to be eliminated?

    Cross hairs are used on targets to mark surveying points and they are everywhere - would those have to be eliminated?  Someone walking a trail may come across one and think they are a target of a right wing, radical surveyor.

    Prior to this tragic shooting the libs were trying to downplay Republican efforts to repeal Obamacare by crying about how the focus should be on jobs.  The surveying and engineering fields have been devastated by this economy - yet according to the lib proposed legislation - symbols like cross hairs would be eliminated because of their appearance as a threat.  Progressive think/speak killing one industry in a fell swoop to be politically correct.  Nice Job Libs!!!

    Also (none / 0) (#20)
    by grannynanny on Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 04:40:01 PM EST
    Brett Bozell had a great comment over at Newsbusters.  

    According to Democrats and the liberal talking points of this administration that is repeated word for word by the MSM - being conservative is now a crime.  

    Every thing we say and every thing we do is considered criminal.  

    Write your Congress person! (none / 0) (#23)
    by maidintheus on Wed Jan 12, 2011 at 12:09:14 PM EST
    Ask them to please stop the copious funding.

    Crosshairs (none / 0) (#24)
    by jgillmanjr on Fri Jan 14, 2011 at 11:33:22 AM EST
    I don't need no stinkin crosshairs.

    Iron sights for the win!

    • Just approved! by Corinthian Scales, 01/14/2011 01:32:23 PM EST (none / 0)
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