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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Feeling the Love

    By JGillman, Section News
    Posted on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 09:07:36 AM EST
    Tags: Animals, Civility, Feral response, hate, Labor rally, Lansing Michigan, tea party, Unions, Violence (all tags)

    There is a lot more to be said for the rally in Lansing from yesterday.  The stark contrast in how people behave, and the emotion level between this type of rally and what we as conservatives might engage in. (tea parties) Frequently surrounded by packs of union employees (NOT ALWAYS MEMBERS) from MESSA, MEA, UAW, we were not allowed to make any reasonable argument for more than 3 seocnds before hearing "Koch brothers!  "Corporate welfare! etc.."  Being shouted down was standard fare, and for the most part our group remained rather calm and dignified.

    I say "for the most part" because I had to give an anthropological lesson to an English teacher at one point. (an explanation of the build up to fighting like apes) This was complete with an acted out sequence of what happens before two gorillas begin to tear out each other's throats. I don't believe he appreciated being taught, and wouldn't stop yelling after that, so I turned my back to him and began a conversation with a more reasonable person.

    I went through some of the video from the Saturday February 26 rally in Lansing last night before hitting it. I would be lying if I said there were no civil conversations held, but frankly the few that were indeed civil, could not make up for the cat calls, the abusive language, and physical intimidation offered by those whom we disagree with.

    For my part, I am convinced many of the labor union members that go to these rallies are little more than animals.  They operate on a feral code of emotional response akin to dogs in a pack.  Violent tendencies seem to be their commonality, with no regard to personal property, or the physical well being of their fellow man.  As one example, in the video below, my son was using the camera to pan across the crowd, but was identified as being with our small group of tea partiers.

    The Video - below the line


    Look at this guy's face.  Just before he reaches out to grab the camera. Pure.. hate?  I really dislike having to ascribe emotion to others without knowing them, but I just thought I would guess.

    Anyhow, I have yet to see any tea party activist behave this way.  And I am proud to say so.

    I will tell you, this was typical of the disrespect these people offer those who oppose their entitlement mentality.

    Hopefully this is as bad as it gets.

    Update [2011-2-27 11:37:32 by JGillman]: This video was picked up at Michelle Malkin's site - Union Civility Michigan Edition

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    Historical continunity. (none / 0) (#1)
    by LookingforReagan on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 10:05:20 AM EST
    Hitler had the Brown Shirts, Mussolini had the Black Shirts, Pol Pot had the Khmer Rouge, Obama and the Commie Lib Progressive Democratic Workers party have the Union thugs. The more things change folks the more they stay the same.
    If these folks were actually on the right side of this argument they wouldn't have to use threats and intimidation to get their way. As it is might doesn't always make right in many cases it just furthers evil. The Usefull idiots AKA Dupniks on the left don't understand history or they would know that teachers, professors, and the leaders of these radical groups including unions are the first that the Marxists imprison or execute. They can't have folks like that running around in their workers paradise now can they? Hmmm. They might start stirring things up against the status quo.

    Thanks! (none / 0) (#2)
    by jambork on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 11:06:55 AM EST
    You showed guts and class!
    No wonder you and your son stood out!

    "It's the SPENDING Stupid!"

    "The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." -Patrick Henry, revolutionary (1736-1799)



    Restraint and moving in groups (none / 0) (#3)
    by jgillmanjr on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 12:43:11 PM EST
    Over at Malkin's site, one of the commentators gave me props for showing restraint.

    Yes, I could have "smashed his face" in all sorts of a quick order. I could have even just smacked his arm away. Taking care of this jackass really wouldn't have been much of an issue.

    However, part of my "one weekend a month" gig isn't just being able throw down immense amounts of hurt - it also includes being situationaly aware.

    We were significantly outnumbered by a group that probably had more guys like this that were willing to get violent - and in relatively close proximity. I could scrap my way out of a confrontation with one, or maybe two more who decided to jump into the mix (I did have a knife with me), but I have a feeling it wouldn't be limited to that.

    The only ways I really would have felt comfortable to put this douchebag in his place is if either:

    1. I was with a larger group, or

    2. I had the G23 with me, in order to deter any mobs that might decide to "have their brotha's back".

    Of course there are potential issues with those as well - with groups, what's the size? You can still get significantly outnumbered.

    As for the firearms option, that will most likely be a quick way to get an attorney bill - even though I most likely would not get charged with anything.

    In fact, the above is why having a second camera is more than a good idea. If shit hits the fan and I have to throw or even draw down, there would be evidence showing that it was a legitimate use of force. Besides, the one camera might get damaged during the course of the altercation.

    Just my two cents as the one attacked.

    That said, I am considering talking to an attorney and seeing what the chance might be to get this asshat tracked down. I wouldn't mind emptying his bank account.

    • Thanks by Rougman, 02/27/2011 01:34:51 PM EST (none / 0)
    • situationaly aware. by JGillman, 02/27/2011 01:45:39 PM EST (none / 0)
    No, it won't. (none / 0) (#6)
    by KG One on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 05:16:30 PM EST
    I've been to more than one of these rodeos.

    When these bills come up for a final vote or scheduled to be signed into law, I can guarantee you that what you experienced yesterday was amateur night in Dixie.

    The protesters will be back, and in greater numbers (now, where have I heard that before?).

    Definitely watch your back when counter-protesting during that time because all bets will be off when it comes to what is and is not acceptable behavior!

    Maybe a clear message needs to be sent to the (none / 0) (#7)
    by RushLake on Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 09:51:54 AM EST
    State Police ahead of any TEA Party type demonstration where CPUSA affiliates might be in attendance. I was at the events on the past two April 15ths and noticed the prominent presence of MSP circulating amongst the peaceful and law abiding crowd. Maybe a polite message to whomever is now in charge that we are coming (whenever that is), we fear physical harm from the union goons based upon their past behavior, and would appreciate the same type of MSP attention and appropriate intervention that it so professionally demonstrated at the TEA Party events. Put the ball in Snyder's court since MSP reports to him?

    • MSP? by Corinthian Scales, 02/28/2011 12:39:22 PM EST (none / 0)
    Animals (none / 0) (#8)
    by archiespeck on Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 11:36:36 AM EST
    If the Wisconsin/Ohio/Michigan labor battles have proven anything to those who are paying attention, it's that union members and leaders are uneducated animals who become violent when they feel that someone is threatening their birthright i.e. oversized pay and benefits. They don't understand any argument other than an emotional one, because that's what's been taught to them by their communist leaders. It really reveals a lack of independent thought when you consider how quickly these mobs can be whipped up into a frenzy.

    It's just a shame the mainstream media hasn't picked up on this. If they had, Governor Walker's revolution would be spreading to many more states.

    Kudos to the tea partiers who braved the rabble. I know my temper would have gotten the best of me if these animals starting making obscene gestures to me or my family.

    And Chris Matthews wonders why tea partiers arm themselves at rallies...

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